Khokhlova Nastya 38:30 – 44:00

But all the same I could have chosen the other one and that’s the difference between free voluntary human action and naturally events like earthquakes. There is that an explanation for why you did what you did and the reason you give does cite a cause but it’s not causally sufficient. The form of the explanation is not like explanation in physics. If I ask why did this subject fall this far when I dropped it I can cite a law from which I can deduce so that is going to fall as equal has one GT square in substrate deduction. But you can’t do that for things like your own decision to vote let’s say you’ve choose to vote for the democratic candidate. You can do that with that you get reasons why it happened. The form of the explanation is not deterministic. It doesn’t follow from the explanation that it couldn’t have happen otherwise whereas is given a laws. This couldn’t have happened. Otherwise it would be a inconsistent with a law to suppose that would fall some different distances have paid giving a time that it fill.

- So far relics acquires carrots to find freewill why would it manifests itself only in the human mind and then as a follow up is there any way I look toward the notion may be ideas and concepts don’t hold physical properties the same physical objects .. how you can treat them as a time as they for a kind of look at something not be like conscious as upon as a participant some sort of the … where your structure reminds allows ideas and if physicl things

Ok, it’s two good questions. If what I’m saying is right and again I’m not endorsing hypotheses to but if hypotheses are all plausible then it’s seems reasonable I suppose that it would be some kind of freewill in all sorts of out animal. This kind of consciousness when you have a sense of alternatives possibilities open. And you choose among them those alternatives. That’s certainly present among primates. Now again the study of animal cognition is only getting going but I just came back from Leipzig and has a wonderful guy where the max plank institute as an American Mike Thomas .. and he works with this primates and it’s clear that’s they also have a sense of making up their mind and they will play games with him and do various things as suggest that they think their making up other minds where they had to do one thing where they could have done another thing. So it wouldn’t be confined just the humans. What is special about humans is we get these higher order levels of reflection where you can not only reflect on what you’re going to do but you can reflect on the very fact of reflection. So you have higher order reflection on the lower order reflection and of course I mean if you’re ever read Henry James his characters have about seven motives for my one and they always busy reflection on why they have these mods or if you .. a friends who were in and a psychoanalysis they always saying things like – “Why did I said that?”, “Why did I ask you why I said that? ” and so on. Because they always have this higher order reflection and I think that another part I didn’t go into that but a lard of that problem here arises that you don’t just have a linear movement but you have a whole lot of reflections on reflections on a whole lot of higher level states of consciousness. Now I’m not sure understood the second question which was about consciousness and the point that I want to make about them and they tell me if this answer the question a lot of .. first think worked as a real problem I decided to raise my arm in the damn thing goes up, but we know independently that the only way I can go up is if that’s the secretion of acetyl choline across this in at the classes sufficient ways of actually reaches the … in place of the motor neurons. It cranks them up the at my house and the action filaments. So how do these two stories fit together? I think this perfectly consistent. Of course my decision to raise my arm cause my arm to go up, but of course anything that cause my arm to go up and that way have to causes secretion of acetyl choline. Otherwise the arm doesn’t go up. No acetyl choline no movement. What follows from that? What follow is? That this picture has to be better than that picture because this picture says one in the same event has a level of description where it is a conscious decision, the decision to raise your arm. Another level of description where it has these wonderful biochemical properties worth involves specific neuro transmitters with specific electrochemical properties. So that’s coming this another beautiful problem that’s the so-called mind – body problem. How is it possible that my thoughts can move my muscles just watched I’d happens all the time is always some floss will tell you. All thoughts can make any difference. Mind can affect matter you just watch. I decided to raise my arm in a damn thing goes up and notice we don’t say well that the thing about the old arms. Someday she goes up until now and someday she doesn’t go up. It’s not like a weather and same .. I don’t know it’s up dummy. It’s up to me to decide when it goes up. But what that tells me is one of the same event has to have psychological neural biological properties.

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