Korchagina Anna 16:35 – 21:58.

Compatibles says … look there some actions that are free in the sense that they are caused by your own in your states you I decide to raise my arm and the damn thing goes up ok, but that is still determined, but there are other actions where somebody grabs your arm unless it and that is also determined.

So all events are determined it just summer determined by inside causes and at those inner mental causes are what we call free action so you have, you can have your free will and each determinist cake on this account, because throw the story goes free will just names a certain class of bittermann actions. Actions determined by your own thought processes now that I won`t do now I… think that there is a use of freedom and determinism where they are compatible.

I mean, when people are marching in the streets with sings it says freedom now. And they don`t mean they want to sensational law of physics, you know, they just want the government to get off their back or something like that.

So, I agree, leave me alone act freely. There is used of that where it`s consistent with derminism, but that`s not the problem worries us the problem that worries us is this: is it the case that for every event that occurs, every event that occurs including all conscious of voluntary human actions. There were antecedently saficient conditions for causal conditions for that events, given that I made the decision and given that I acted on the decision was it the case that there were conditions prior time i`m making the decision and acting on the decision that work absolutely sufficient of fix that decision and that action.

That`s the question that we recess and I`d like to think of these as engineering problems. Suppose you are designing a beast and you had a choice you could design a beast that had free will or you could design a beast that was completely determined. What would you do? Well that`s it certainly is a real engineering problem how to begin with? You got to design a conscious animal because free will only arises. The question only arises for consciousness and only arises for this conscious experience we have making up our mind and doing something in that gap.

That if, it seems to me, we would have to hypotheses one is, hypotheses one, everything is determined including all human behavior and our beast, if we design want might we might give the illusion of free will, cause we might putting consciousness mechanism that can dissolution of free will, but it… be… would be a straight problem in traditional artificial intelligence we simply put a program in that was ca… where the algorithms in the program determined I… a fixed response to every conceivable stimulus.

So this would be a case on hypothesis one looks like a rather simple engineering problem, I mean, the hard part would be had to put in consciousness but otherwise it doesn`t look like there`s any theoretical obstacle to building a conscious robot, that was completely determined so that`s hypothesis one, but how about hypotheses two?

Determinism is not… a true universally, but there are certain class of human actions namely those we think of as free voluntary rational actions where there is a certain amount of skull where you have a leeway given the causes operating on you. You have a choice you could awarded for bush or you could have voted for carrie. Now you didn`t have an infinite range of choices you couldn`t have voted for George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. They were not on the ballot. They were not.. candidates but within I arrange you did have a choice available to you and the question is: how what … what with the world have to be like if that choice was something other van and illusion.

Well it`s slow down a bit and and I get examples that will enable us to think this through and again I like to think of historical examples even imaginary ones uh… there`s a famous case, if you ever go to European art museums one of the favorite topics in European museums is the judgment of Paris… and the reason it`s a favorite topic is a gave the artist a chance to paint three beautiful notes and… artist always love chances like that. I mean, this is why they are… protestant reformation was such a disaster chronic had to put clothes on all of his nudes, but in any case… if you remember how the judgment of Paris went here`s how had a story goes it`s mythological, but it`s a it`s a gives us a good waited state our problem. A… Paris was the son of the king of Troy and he had, what nowadays we call a summer job, tending sheep… and Zeus had a problem. He had a given golden apple to one of three beautiful goddesses palace Athena, Hera and Aphrodite. And Zeus didn`t want hassle, he didn`t want fight with these women, well, with this goddesses. So he gave the apple to Paris and he said you decide you pick which is the most beautiful. Now I always thought he had to make a decision as to which was the best-looking, but I did a little research on this one starting with google of course.

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